Some progress...

**sup-rbeast** · March 6th, 2009, 09:17 AM

I have no problem with knives...and I have no problem with guns that aren't designed to kill as many people possible as quickly as possible.

**Counts** · March 6th, 2009, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by sup-rbeast

I have no problem with knives...and I have no problem with guns that aren't designed to kill as many people possible as quickly as possible.

So who will deside what type of gun does not fit that catagory?

So that we are on the same page while I can see a POSSABLE reason for a few of the banned items (i.e. Pistal grip for someone with a disability, the barols that will not burn you if you touch them) banning them IS no big deal .....What I DO NOT LIKE is the presadent that it will set that will allow them to put real teeth in a ban 5-10 years down the road...........It IMHO is EXACTLY like someone being OK with the Wire taps so long as they were only used to fight terrosem however we both know that the defanation of terisom could be changed at any time to fit whatever the Gov wanted it to be much the way an ***ault weapon will become whatever the Gov wants it to be

**sup-rbeast** · March 6th, 2009, 10:10 AM

The ban was in place from 94-04....and it hasn't grown in scope.

**Counts** · March 6th, 2009, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by sup-rbeast

The ban was in place from 94-04....and it hasn't grown in scope.

The (D)s were only in power from 94-96 so we will see what happens if they stay in power longer this time

BTW How much is Obama useing/planning on useing the very wiretapping that Bush was ripped for?

Obama Administration: Wiretapping Legal Challenge Must Die | Threat Level from Wired.com

Obama’s wiretapping stand enrages many … The Backpack Chronicles

Senate easily passes wiretap bill / Obama's 'yes' vote draws charge of flip-flop from McCain camp

Once you give away a right you generaly do not get it back

**sup-rbeast** · March 6th, 2009, 01:23 PM

One day the "Patriot Act" will die...

**Counts** · March 6th, 2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by sup-rbeast

One day the "Patriot Act" will die...

Now would be the time for it to happen if does not happen now it NEVER will

I am afraid that the Gov (both Ds and Rs) have figured out that they like the extra power (Never a good thing for the rest of us)

**simple man** · March 6th, 2009, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Counts

The (D)s were only in power from 94-96 so we will see what happens if they stay in power longer this time

BTW How much is Obama useing/planning on useing the very wiretapping that Bush was ripped for?

Obama Administration: Wiretapping Legal Challenge Must Die | Threat Level from Wired.com

Obama?s wiretapping stand enrages many ? The Backpack Chronicles

Senate easily p***es wiretap bill / Obama's 'yes' vote draws charge of flip-flop from McCain camp

Once you give away a right you generaly do not get it back

If you follow the train of thought out, the Bush admin messed up again, released cl***ified docs, and got the US sued. It seems to just to try to stop that suit in the first link.

**simple man** · March 6th, 2009, 06:07 PM

Just a thought out of the blue- what do you all think of the ads. "I owed 100 grand in back taxes and my people got me off for 2000 dollars!" I can't understand how this could be legal. If it works for some, we all should quit paying federal taxes.